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18.04 = circular login problem on system freeze

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On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 6:02 AM, Liam Proven <lproven at> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 at 05:07, Little Girl <littlergirl at> wrote:
>> Hey there,
>> Liam Proven wrote:
>> >Maté is fine but can't do vertical taskbars.
>> Actually, it's pretty quick and painless to get those on the MATE
>> desktop. I created a quick blog post and added a couple of
>> screenshots of my desktop. The first one shows a bottom and left
>> taskbar. The second one shows two left taskbars and one bottom one.
>> I don't normally use a vertical taskbar, so I just threw something
>> together so you could get the idea:
> That's a vertical *panel* but it's not a vertical *taskbar*.
> I get told this so often, I put together an Imgur album about a year
> ago to show what I mean.
> If you put the Windows taskbar vertically, the elements within it
> still remain horizontal... because alphabets generally work
> horizontally, and the most widely-used ones, left-to-right.
> So buttons should stay the same _height_ but change in width. What
> they should _never_ do is grow larger: the idea is to see more rows of
> controls, not bigger ones.
> All "traditional" desktops are copies of Windows: Fvwm95, IceWM, GNOME
> 2, KDE, Xfce, LXDE, Enlightenment, etc. They all copy the original
> Windows 95 desktop.
> But most of them fail to correctly copy the behaviour of the Windows
> taskbar when place at the left or right edge of the screen.
> The object of the exercise is to remove any top or bottom panels, thus
> maximising available vertical screen pixels. On widescreens, height is
> precious, width is cheap.
> So it needs to contain everything the top and bottom panels contained,
> while still showing more, in legible form, than a top or bottom panel
> can.
> Compare the number of readable app buttons in a vertical toolbar --
> mine can hold about 40 with 2-3 words in each -- with the number on a
> horizontal panel: maybe 15 before they start shrinking until you can't
> read the text and have to guess from a tiny icon, or scrub over them
> with a mouse.
> GNOME 2 or GNOME 3 can't do this with any number of addons. Cinnamon
> can't. Maté can't.
> Only Xfce and LXDE/LXQt can, that I know of. Of the two, Xfce is more
> customisable, so I use that.
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While taskbars are being debated -- a little note about my original problem:
I found a long thread in the ubuntu-mate forum with similar though not
exact error messages
but the same end result - locked out.

I downloaded kde again and still have no text on the install screen.
Maybe Ill try kubuntu next.
Looked at xubunutu ... kinda plain but I guess it works.