If I use the 'files' GUI, though, I can still log on by giving the
other box user/pw - that still works.
> Anyway, if kwallet asks for a password, it must be there.
Not that I can find. It's not clear that the popup is kwallet. No
matter what I do it just goes away with nothing happening. Might be
something else that then calls kwallet. kwallet seems to be a
'complex' of several pgms.
> Either it is in the package kwalletmanager or in kde-runtime.
I don't have kwalletmanager, but kde-runtime may be there under
user/share/lintian/overrides [strange sounding location?]. I just saw
on the net that kwallet is supposedly part of kde-runtime, so I am
stuck with it.
> If it is the latter, it is probably a dependency of every KDE
If that is what was changed, it might explain why I am seeing the
wallet problem in kde apps.
>> I was checking re config files, and there seems to be hundreds of them
>> spread out all over the place. Some are probably associated with the
>> earlier KDE installs, but may have been modified by the desktop
>> install [like now asking for the wallet].
>> It's not clear how, or even if, this can be fixed. Is the best
>> approach to just do an Ubuntu reinstall from scratch?
>> If I do a reinstall WITHOUT doing a full format, will it see that I am
>> installing the same thing and keep the existing config files that may
>> be causing the problems?
> The problematic config files are stored in your $HOME and they
> wouldn't be touched if you reinstall without formatting. So that's
> not really helpful. Another option would be to reinstall
> kubuntu-desktop and live with the nautilus issue.
Installing kubuntu-desktop did cause many problems, several of which I
did not mention. I don't want that.
> At least the other issues introduced by uninstalling kubuntu-desktop
> should be reversed. Or uninstall the other KDE applications you had
> installed manually.
I tried that with konq, but reinstalling that did not fix it, so I
didn't uninstall all the kde apps installed originally..
>> I do have a recent backup of home, but if I restore that will that
>> just bring back the bad config files? One possibility that occurs to
>> me is to take off all the hidden files from the recent backup, restore
>> the rest of the data, and then place hidden files from an older
>> backup done before the desktop install. This might give me much of
>> what I had, with some work and history lost.
> If you leave away the hidden files you might get a usable state. But
> some hidden files are probably useful to preserve, like ~/.bash* ~/.ssh
> ~/.wine ~/.mozilla ~/.thunderbird (if they exist).
>> Another thought is, since the Ubuntu desktop is messed up, might it be
>> a good idea to reinstall THAT desktop and see if it might fix things?
> Of course you could try this option, but again I'm rather sure the
> problem is caused by config files in your $HOME and they are never
> touched by installing / uninstalling packages.
> Colin Law wrote:
>> Rikona stated previously that logging on as a different user did not
>> help. If that is still the case then the problem is not with files in
>> his home directory. In that case re-installing Ubuntu (the complete
>> OS) without re-formatting should solve the problem as it will
>> re-install all non user specific config.
> I thought the test with the other user resulted in the same nautilus
> issue. But are the other new problems the same?
Yes - I just checked again and see the same problems with all users.
As an indication of how badly the Ubuntu desktop is currently messed
up, when I went back to my usual user, the desktop came up completely
messed up. No side icons, no top bar, and extra stuff on the screen. I
was considering a reboot, but in trying a few things to get a
terminal, or some way to reboot, it did mostly come back. Really needs
> If they are the same for the other user I would agree with your
It looks like the install/uninstall of kubuntu-desktop messed up some
non-user config files related to kde apps. If I uninstall ALL the kde
apps, it might still leave these there - a reinstall of konq, for
example, did not fix it. So, even if I re-install Ubuntu to fix the
Ubuntu part, which is broken and necessary to fix, I may still have
the kde problems continuing. Does that sound right?
It's beginning to look like a complete reinstall with format may be
necessary. What do you think?
It also sounds like I should NOT restore home from the latest backup,
but use one from BEFORE the kde desktop install. Does that sound right
Many thanks to you and Colin for the help!